Sunday, December 23, 2007

Death for Refusing Burka and Deceptive Denials

Anonymous said...

What is the use of telling Maldivians that some people in other parts of the World kill women who don't wear hijaab?

Do u want this to happen in Maldives too?

Do u think that if u give these information to Maldivians, they would never do such kind of things?

How is this an eye-opener for Maldivians when no Muslim Maldivian had ever even intended to do such a thing?

What does Islam has to do about these people who aren't aware of Islam properly?

Anonymous said...

This is not something happened in accordance with the Islamic teachings. This punishment cannot be given for not wearing the Hijab. So this action is unislamic. Islam has nothing to do about this.

jao said...
That's right, they don't really understand Islam when they behead who don't wear Hijaab! Islam prohibits killing like that!


"Here is a Muslim riddle. When one criticizes the practice of Muslim women wearing the burka or hijab, Muslims quickly respond that their religious symbol or choice is being attacked, but when girls like Aqsa die for refusing to accept the same religious symbol, Muslims quickly respond by saying their religion has nothing do with the death.
It is indeed a fact that wearing the burka (not the more liberal hijab) is a religious duty for Muslim women commanded by Allah. The Quran [24:31] commands Muslim women to “draw their veils over their bosoms” so as not to expose their physical assets to unrelated people. Allah says [Quran 33:59]: “O Prophet! Tell thy wives and thy daughters and the women of the believers [Muslims] to draw their cloaks close round them (when they go abroad).”
No Muslim will deny that Allah’s commands in the Quran are non-negotiable and binding on all Muslims. When someone dies for refusing to comply with those binding Islamic obligations, it is ridiculous to say the Islamic religion has nothing to do with that death.
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When I was growing up as a Muslim, my religious teachers at my school and madrasa used to tell us that a righteous Muslim parent must ask his or her children to follow their religious duties at the age of eight and pressure them at the age of ten. If they continue to refuse, beat them at the age of twelve. In many Muslim countries not all parents apply this protocol rigorously, but it remains a widely accepted guide. Some parents do follow it closely in order to bring their disobedient children onto the righteous path. As a result, injuries and even deaths occur, like Aqsa's. These injuries and deaths can in no way be separated from the Islamic religion.
Whether it is for the refusal to wear the burka/hijab, or to follow other religious obligations, deaths such as Asqa’s occur in Islamic countries on a regular basis.
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It is a fact that murders among Muslims around the world for noncompliance with the Islamic way of life are common, and go mostly unreported. According to a 2000 UN estimate, “…around 5,000 girls and women in at least 14 countries, among them Pakistan, Jordan and Turkey, were killed yearly because their families felt they brought dishonor on them.” These are far too common incidences of unjustified cruelty, which make very few news headlines.
Muslims go about their business happily as these brutal murders happen on a daily basis. It is only when the Western press makes a fuss about it, pointing particularly to their religion, that Muslims all of a sudden break their slumber and join the chorus of denials, or accusations of unjustified attack on their religion.
What is needed is for the Muslim community to try its best to ensure that another innocent life, full of possibilities, like that of Aqsa Parvez, does not meet the same fate. Denials, putting up a show of a hunger strike, or accusations of attacks on their religion will not help, but will only perpetuate the tragedy.
In spite of these denials, hunger strikes, and accusations, Muslims know well what is written in their scriptures and their duty to enforce them. What is needed is for the Muslim community to look honestly into where the problem truly lies. They must initiate an open debate in their community about what is enforceable in their scripture and creed, and what is not. It is going to be a long time before such a debate will stop innocents like Aqsa from dying, but without it, Aqsas will continue to die in their thousands yearly, as occurs today around the world, without an end in sight."

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25 comments:

  1. Anonymous3:45 AM

    up your ass you piece of uneducated fuck

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  2. Anonymous2:34 PM

    Ismael Rasheed wrote
    "Here is a Muslim riddle. When one criticizes the practice of Muslim women wearing the burka or hijab, Muslims quickly respond that their religious symbol or choice is being attacked, but when girls like Aqsa die for refusing to accept the same religious symbol, Muslims quickly respond by saying their religion has nothing do with the death."

    My response:

    Firstly,
    Hijaab is a religious symbol for the Muslims. No one has the right to criticize and any sane minded person won’t criticize it, because it is a safety measurement taken by the Muslims girls to prevent rape. Then why should u criticize it? You don’t want to reduce the rate of rape? Why doesn’t u criticize Christian’s nun’s dress if u are against covering the body?

    Secondly,
    Islam has nothing to do with the killings happening in any where of the World due to not wearing Hijaab. Because Islam doesn’t tell to kill those who won’t wear Hijaab. I challenge you people to show me one verse or hadith which say to kill those who don’t wear Hijaab. So why can u blame Islam for these ignorant Muslims? Why don’t u try to educate them by saying that Islam doesn’t teach that, it u are so much concerned about the killings? BTW: we are trying our best to teach them! So I repeat Islam has nothing to do with this killing. Islam doesn’t prescribe this punishment. Is it clear?

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  3. Anonymous2:35 PM

    Ismael rahseed wrote:
    "It is indeed a fact that wearing the burka (not the more liberal hijab) is a religious duty for Muslim women commanded by Allah. The Quran [24:31] commands Muslim women to “draw their veils over their bosoms” so as not to expose their physical assets to unrelated people. Allah says [Quran 33:59]: “O Prophet! Tell thy wives and thy daughters and the women of the believers [Muslims] to draw their cloaks close round them (when they go abroad).”

    My response:

    Yes, Islam does tell to wear Hijaab. That is to cover the complete body except the hands and face. Some scholars even say that face also should be covered. But according to majority of the scholars that’s not obligatory. Hijaab however is obligatory. But Islam doesn’t say to kill those who don’t wear it. Show me ur evidence!!

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  4. Anonymous2:35 PM

    Ismael rasheed:
    "No Muslim will deny that Allah’s commands in the Quran are non-negotiable and binding on all Muslims. When someone dies for refusing to comply with those binding Islamic obligations, it is ridiculous to say the Islamic religion has nothing to do with that death."

    My response: Why are u Islam when it doesn’t say that whoever don’t wear hijaab should be killed. Show me ur proof. If someone refuses to do something obligatory he is not to be killed for that. Is it clear? Why is it ridiculous to say that? Where is ur proof that whoever doesn’t wear hijaab should be killed?

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  5. Anonymous2:37 PM

    Ismael rasheed:
    When I was growing up as a Muslim, my religious teachers at my school and madrasa used to tell us that a righteous Muslim parent must ask his or her children to follow their religious duties at the age of eight and pressure them at the age of ten. If they continue to refuse, beat them at the age of twelve. In many Muslim countries not all parents apply this protocol rigorously, but it remains a widely accepted guide. Some parents do follow it closely in order to bring their disobedient children onto the righteous path. As a result, injuries and even deaths occur, like Aqsa's. These injuries and deaths can in no way be separated from the Islamic religion.
    Whether it is for the refusal to wear the burka/hijab, or to follow other religious obligations, deaths such as Asqa’s occur in Islamic countries on a regular basis.

    My response:

    You are referring to a hadith, which is as follows.
    "Command your children to pray when they reach the age of seven and hit them if they leave it off when they reach the age of ten and separate them from each other in the beds."
    This hadith is referring to praying not with regard to wearing Hijaab. Hijaab will beobligatory only when child reaches puberty. Your memory is too bad. It is not when they reach eight, and there is no hadith which says to hit when they reach twelve!
    With regard to ur claim that injuries even death occur when muslims obey the above command. That cannot happen because Islam doesn’t allow to kill or injure the Child. This hadith refutes ur evil claim. "Do not hit the face and do not defigure." So it is prohibited to injure or kill or hit face or any where which may cause major injury. So the story u gave doesn’t prove that Islam tell muslims to kill there daughters if they refuse to wear hijab. I doubt whether u went to a school.

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  6. Anonymous2:38 PM

    Ismael wrote:
    It is a fact that murders among Muslims around the world for noncompliance with the Islamic way of life are common, and go mostly unreported. According to a 2000 UN estimate, “…around 5,000 girls and women in at least 14 countries, among them Pakistan, Jordan and Turkey, were killed yearly because their families felt they brought dishonor on them.” These are far too common incidences of unjustified cruelty, which make very few news headlines.
    Muslims go about their business happily as these brutal murders happen on a daily basis. It is only when the Western press makes a fuss about it, pointing particularly to their religion, that Muslims all of a sudden break their slumber and join the chorus of denials, or accusations of unjustified attack on their religion.

    My response:

    These statistics doesn’t prove anything. Islam prohibits killing people like that. Even when Muslim kills people for commiting adultery, that cannot be done by anyone. To do that they have to go to a judge. And he will issue the sentence. Then only he will be killed. So these killings u mention are not Islamic teachings. Is it clear?

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  7. Anonymous2:38 PM

    Ismael wrote:
    “What is needed is for the Muslim community to try its best to ensure that another innocent life, full of possibilities, like that of Aqsa Parvez, does not meet the same fate. Denials, putting up a show of a hunger strike, or accusations of attacks on their religion will not help, but will only perpetuate the tragedy.”

    My response:

    Yes, that’s a good idea. But why do u increase the muslims anger by mocking and criticizing? So u too are trying to cause violence aren’t u?

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  8. Anonymous2:39 PM

    Ismael wrote:
    “In spite of these denials, hunger strikes, and accusations, Muslims know well what is written in their scriptures and their duty to enforce them. What is needed is for the Muslim community to look honestly into where the problem truly lies. They must initiate an open debate in their community about what is enforceable in their scripture and creed, and what is not. It is going to be a long time before such a debate will stop innocents like Aqsa from dying, but without it, Aqsas will continue to die in their thousands yearly, as occurs today around the world, without an end in sight."

    My response:

    If Muslims go back to their scriptures this won’t happen. Islam doesn’t say to kill those won’t wear Hijaab. That’s a big lie! If Muslims go back to the scriptures they would realize that they are doing wrong by killing those who don’t wear hijaab. As for debating, there are several debates happening all over the World. For instance check out peacetv, it shows many debates. Just watch it!

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  9. Look who is deceptive. You fool didn't post the complete comment. You coward only posted a part of it.

    This what u posted:

    Anonymous said...

    What is the use of telling Maldivians that some people in other parts of the World kill women who don't wear hijaab?

    Do u want this to happen in Maldives too?

    Do u think that if u give these information to Maldivians, they would never do such kind of things?

    How is this an eye-opener for Maldivians when no Muslim Maldivian had ever even intended to do such a thing?
    What does Islam has to do about these people who aren't aware of Islam properly?


    BUT THE ACTUAL POST IS LIKE THIS:

    Yes, these type of thinking shows that you are too narrow minded. Guys,guys open ur eyes and see the truth!

    For example, suppose the students of India fornicate. Your example is as if telling these things to Maldivian Students! Why do Maldivian students need to know whether Indian students fornicate or not? What is the use of telling Maldivians that some people in other parts of the World kill women who don't wear hijaab? Do u want this to happen in Maldives too? Do u think that if u give these information to Maldivians, they would never do such kind of things? How is this an eye-opener for Maldivians when no Muslim Maldivian had ever even intended to do such a thing?

    Someone asked that are there any non-muslims doing crimes in the Maldives. This is a silly question. This is as if asking are there any foreigners doing crimes in the Maldives! All Maldivians are Muslims according to the law. Then is it strange to find that only muslims do crime in the Maldives? Also bear in mind that non-muslims do crime in Maldives. Many non-muslim teachers and others have attempted to rape our women, stolen etc...

    To educate Maldivians you don't have to pick strangs stories from other countries and show it to Maldivians! How is it going to help Maldivians get educated? This is as if educating an innocent child by telling him/her some horrible crimes done by some other children! What is the use of the child knowing about that?

    After doing these kind of things, you go on to tell us that this is an eye opener for us! This show ur foolishness! It is u who are with
    a blind eye and a locked mind not us!

    Yes, i do condemn the guys who bomb-blasted, but it is not something encouraged in the religion! Some one questioned that why do we attack those who are trying to make the society better! Yes we are sorry for attacking u. You have done a great job to make our society better, by giving us information about some of the horrible crimes hapenning all across the globe. We thank you for making the society better by slandering our beloved religion-Islam! We thank you for making the society better, by mocking Allaah may He be exalted. We thank you for making the society better by mocking our Prophet (Peace ang blessings of Allaah be upon him)! We thank you for making the society better by taking stories of some ignorant Muslims and then attack Islam on the basis of their actions! (This what they call liberty) Yes we are sorry! This is how these "good, intelligent, educated guys" make our society better!


    I CALL SUCH PEOPLE AS COWARDS! YOU WERE AFRAID TO POST THE WHOLE THING, BECAUSE IT REFUTES EACH AND EVERY CLAIM OF URS. YOU POSTED IT AS IF THAT WAS THE WHOLE COMMENT. YOU NEVER SAID THAT IT IS A PART OF IT. YOU ARE THE ONE WHO IS DECIEVING PEOPLE! NOW LOOK ALL OF UR EVIL CLAIMS HAVE BEEN REFUTED!!!!

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  10. Anonymous and Jao,
    Hojatolislam Gholam Reza Hassani who is the representative of the Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Seyyed Ali Khamenei does not agree with you.
    "Women who do not respect the hijab and their husbands deserve to die," said Hassani.
    This is no ordinary sheik. This is a big one and he says "These women and their husbands and their fathers must die,"

    Why does Islamic Shari’a law in Saudi Arabia and Iran and Afghanistan demand that you wear the headscarf?
    And punish those that dont wear it?
    Are they misunderstanding Islam?
    Instead of being offended about the post, give your energy to educating Muslims clerics who "do not understand Islam".
    Who knows? Some Maldivian may follow some Sheik who "misunderstands Islamic teachings" and do something bad to a woman over the hijab issue.

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  11. Ismail Rasheed,

    Your ignorance about Islam is clearly seen when u gave name of a "scholar." What scholar is that? I haven't even heard about this scholar! WHAT THIS SCHOLAR SAY ABOUT ISLAM IF NOT BACKED BY QUR'AN OR SUNNAH, WILL BE REJECTED. WHAT IS THE PROOF HE GAVE? EVEN IF THIS "SCHOLAR" SAY WHAT YOU CLAIM, ISLAM CAN'T BE BLAMED FOR THAT BECAUSE HE IS LYING ABOUT ISLAM! THAT IS EXPLAINED ABOVE WITH EVIDENCE! Is that clear? You atheist!

    You should question about Islam not about Saudi Arabia. I am not answerable for Saudi Arabia! Is that clear, u atheist? SHOW ME FROM ANY VERSE OR HADITH WHICH SAY TO KILL THOSE WHO REFUSE TO WEAR HIJAB? Why are u failing to show that. You are a coward because you went to find faults in Saudi Arabia not in Islam. Islam does say to wear Hijaab. It does say the husband to command his wife to cover up, to keep her modest. Do u want Muslims to be naked infront of ur evil eyes? No, we prevent our daughters and wifes from ur evil eyes by covering them. I know what u r jealous of! You are jealous because u can't see the aurah of those modest women! Hell be upon u!

    With regard to spending my energy, who are u advice me? Who are u to tell me what to do? How do u know that I am not educating Muslims? I don't listen to satans like u, is that clear? You son of an ape! (Atheists claim that they are evolved from apes, lol)

    ALSO WHY AREN'T U RESPONDING TO THE ABOVE REBUTTAL OF UR ARTICLE? DON'T KNOW HOW TO RESPOND THEM? LOL! CALL THE OTHER SATANS LIKE "DHIVEHI CHRISTIAN" AND OTHER COWARDS. LETS SEE WHO WINS!!

    After all are u trying to say that these killing are Islamic? Where is ur proof for that? Don't have? Then better keep ur mouth shut!!

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  12. Sweet Jesus! This is better than I expected :)

    Way to go Jao!

    Ismail Rasheed,
    Just dropped by to wish you and your gang a merry Christmas. I guess Jao and some anonymous people have been giving u guys a hard time - early Christmas gifts for you guys I guess ;)

    U wanna go for a Christmas coffee or something?

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  13. Anonymous6:34 AM

    LOL! A christian is giving chrismas coffee to an atheist! Hehehehe....

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  14. Dhivehi Christian3:53 PM

    Someone wrote "Hijaab is a religious symbol for the Muslims". A lot of Muslims here are demanding proof from others but they don't like providing proof themselves and that is part of Islamic duplicity. Whoever wrote that quote tell me where the proof for that is in Muhammad's writings and sayings. Where in the Quran did Muhammad write that the Hijaab is a symbol for Muslims?

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  15. I think the anonymous brother who commented made a mistake. Hijab is not a religious symbol, but it is a vaajib for muslims. So that's a small mistake.

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  16. Hey dhivehi Christian,

    Lets start a discussion! First of all why are u running away like a coward when I show mistakes from ur holy bible? Ur bible clearly says that Jesus is not God. It clearly says that he is not the son of God. It clearly says that he didn't get crucified. Then I don't know what u believe. The concept of trinity is rubbish. It doesn't make sense at all. Your bible contains absurdities, historical errors, scientific errors, pornography, more than 100 contradictions and so on.

    Just explain the below pornographic verses. First of all I warn the readers to be aware that i am quotin bible and it contains foul language. I apolojize for that in advance?

    BIBLE,,,donkey-like genitals:
    "There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses." (Ezek. 23:20)

    BIBLE,,,God tells Israel to eat shit: "The Lord said, "In this way the people of Israel will eat defiled food [food cooked with shit] among the nations where I
    will drive them." (Ezek. 4:12-13)

    BIBLE,,,God ordered women and children killed: "... kill without
    showing pity or compassion. Slaughter old men, young men and maidens,women and children ..." (Ezek. 9:5-6)

    BIBLE,,,Lot got drunk and had sex with his daughters: "That night they got their father to drink wine, and the older daughter went in and lay with him." (Gen. 19:33)

    BIBLE,,,Song of Songs 4:5 "Your two breasts are like two fawns, like twin fawns of a gazelle that browse among the lilies."

    BIBLE,,,Lot got drunk and had sex with his daughters: "That night they got their father to drink wine, and the older daughter went in and lay with him."
    (Gen. 19:33)

    BIBLE,,,Fantasizing about his sister? Song of Songs 4:9 "You have stolen my heart, my sister, my bride; you have stolen my heart with one glance of your eyes, with one jewel of your necklace."

    Raping girls at the age of 3: Rabbbi Joseph said, 'Come and hear. A maiden aged 3 years and a day may be acquired in marriage by coition.' Mishnah: A girl of the age of 3 years and a day may be betrothed, subject to her father's
    approval, by sexual intercourse.

    BIBLE,,,Proverbs 5:19 "A loving doe, a graceful deer, may her breasts satisfy you always, may you ever be captivated by her love."

    (INCEST. Zena ma7arem) S. of Songs 5:4 "I slept but my heart was awake. Listen! My lover is knocking: 'Open to me, my sister, my darling, my dove, my flawless one. My head is drenched with dew. I have taken off my robe [showed off his groin in other words]

    After all these non-senses from ur bible u should be ashamed to call ur self as a christian.

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  17. Hey "dhivehi" christian,

    Your Bible has more than 100 contradictions, many absurdities, scientific errors, historical errors, pornography and so on. It also clearly says that Jesus is not God, it clearly says that many other prophets other than Jesus were son of gods. And ur trinity belief is non-sense. It doesn't make sense at all.

    Father, holy ghost and jesus are one.

    Jesus is God.

    Jesus died for the sins of mankind.

    So does this mean that ur God is dead since all of them are one?

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  18. Anonymous5:26 PM

    Hey dhivehi Christian,

    O worshippers of the Messiah, we have a question, to which we want an answer from the one who understands it.

    If a god dies because of the actions of people who kill him, what is this god?

    Is he pleased with what they did to him? Then they must be lucky for they have earned his pleasure.
    If he is displeased with what they did to him, their power has nevertheless overwhelmed his.

    Did the universe remain without a god who hears all and answers those who call upon him?

    Were the seven heavens left with no god above them when he was buried in the ground?

    Was this universe left with no god to look after it when his hands were nailed (to the cross)?

    How could this god be forsaken by all his creation when they heard him weep?

    How could this wood bear the true god who was tied to it?

    How could iron come close to him and penetrate him and wound him?

    How could the hands of his enemies reach him when they struck the back of his head?

    Was the Messiah brought back to life or is the one who revived him another god?

    What a strange grave it is that could contain a god. What is even stranger is that a womb could contain him, Where he remained for nine months, nourished from blood,
    Then he emerged from the vagina as a tiny baby, opening his mouth and seeking the breast, Eating and drinking, with the inevitable consequences thereof. Is that a god?

    Exalted be Allaah above the fabrications of the Christians. He will question them all about the lies they told.

    O worshippers of the cross, for what reason is that thing (the cross) venerated?

    Rationally speaking, it should be broken and burned.If god was crucified upon it by force and his hands nailed to it,Then the thing used for that purpose should be cursed and trampled upon, not kissed when you see it.

    How can the Lord of the Worlds be humiliated on it, then you go and worship it?

    Then you are the enemies of that god, if you venerate it because the lord of mankind has touched it.

    That cross is lost but every time we see something similar it reminds us of that cross. Then why you do you not venerate the graves, for a grave once contained your lord?

    O worshipper of the Messiah, wake up! He has a beginning and he has an end.

    I need your answers, I think you won't hesistate to answer.

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  19. Also fool christian,

    Quran was from Allah, not written by Muhammad PBUH! Where is ur proof for that when u demand proof from others? Don't u see proof for urself? See the foolish verses from ur bible is given with precise references.(They are proofs). What the hell do u say about that?

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  20. Anonymous12:26 AM

    jao,
    Quran was written by Mohammeds followers.
    Read the history regarding the compilation of the Quran. And dont forget the part where the goat ate some of it. Allah was asleep at that moment.

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  21. Where is your proof for your evil claim? Who told you that Qur'an was written by a man? Show ur proof!

    The story of compilation of Qur'an only shows that it is preserved.

    Regarding your claim that some part of it was eaten by a goat, which hadith are u reffering to? Was it an authentic hadith? Even if I agree with u that a goat ate some of it, how on earth u can assume that part of the Qur'an will be missing? These type of claims shows that u aren't aware about Qur'an. It is u who have to read the story of compilation of Qur'an. There is no chance for distorting the Qur'an!

    1. When a part of Qur'an was revealed, Muhammad PBUH used to by heart that at the moment.

    2. Secondly Prophet PBUH used to recite it to the companions of him. They would by heart it too!

    3. Then that part was written, with the Prophet's PBUH supervision.

    4. Like this the whole Qur'an was written, and thousands of people by hearted it.

    5. For two years the Anjel Gabriel came to the prophet PBUH and revised to check the Qur'an. So it was revised twice!

    6. Even if the full Qur'an was eaten, there is no chance of missing the Qur'an. Because in every age millions of people by hearted it from their elders. Likewise it has been passing through generations. And today there are millions of people who have by hearted that whole Qur'an.

    7. Suppose all of the religion followers agree to throw their religious books to the sea. And also remove all the traces of their scriptures. If this happened, Quran will be the only book which will come to existence in a day or two. Because there are many people who have by hearted that. Quran alone will be safe.more

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  22. Anonymous: "Allah was asleep at that moment."

    The above is a lie! The following verse proves that!

    "Allah! La ilaha illa Huwa(none has the right to be worshipped but He), the Ever Living, the One Who sustains and protects all that exists. Neither slumber, nor sleep overtake Him..." [Al-Baqara 2:255]

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