Thursday, September 21, 2006

The sword and the tongue

Early this year a cartoon unleashed a wave of denunciations, outrage and frustration and violence across the Muslim world. Mobs of angry Muslims rampaged through Europe, the Middle East and Asia in protest.
Now many Muslims around the world are offended and angry again. Muslim religious leaders are lashing out because Pope Benedict XVI in an academic lecture about the compatibility of faith and reason quoted the 14th-century Byzantine emperor, Manuel II Paleologos.











What did this 14th-century Emperor say?
In a dialogue with a Persian scholar, Manuel II questioned the teachings of Islam's prophet, Muhammad. He declared "Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached."

The earliest surviving Maldivian government record, etched onto copper in 1194 records that Buddhist monks from the island of Isdhoo in Laamu atoll were taken in triumph to Malé and beheaded by 'the great king Gadanaadeethiya the Prosperous, the uplifter of the noble Lunar Dynasty... defender of the entire hundred thousand islands.' Pursuing a policy of Islamisation, the king 'refrained from killing those infidels who entered the faith of the noble Prophet Muhammad, got them to utter shahaadhath and freed them having performed circumcision on them.'


48 comments:

  1. Anonymous3:58 PM

    what is it with u guys? are u really saying allah is wrong?? your thoughts are better than allah's prophets teachings? you really think u are wiser than who created you?? mohamed is allah's last messenger and its obvious that muslims will love him.YES we do not have tape recordings of what he taught us and his ways,and for people like you quran is there, something you cant challenge and from allah. and in it its obvious that mohammed is very special indeed, so seriously.... phewwww..

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  2. can u prove exactly how muhammed spead Islam by the sword?

    he didnt come to me n point a sword at me, yet I'm muslim....

    muhammed didn't come to Maldives with a sword....

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  3. n how do u explain the number of ppl who are embracing islam in western countries?? where's the sword now?????

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  4. n how can u prove the validity of the Bible and Torah? As ZeroGeek said, it has come out in a zillion versions.... how come there are so few people who have memorised the Bible? I can tell u why... just a few days after they memorise it, the latest version of the Bible comes out with some new technological news in them... the poor ppl have to start memorising again...

    but the Quran has been the same from day one.... no wonder there are so many muslim Hafiz's around. Hell, even I know two chapters in Quran by heart.... :-p

    man... u guys are reallyyyy goin down the wrong way...

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  5. i reallly enjoy making comments to the articles u guys write with so much HARD WORK... it takes a simple guy like me to shred the stuff in them apart as if they were nothin.. yet i'm not even an islamic scholar...

    the only thing u guys can do is make us angry by saying wrong things at Allah n Prophet Muhammad... nothing else.. u guys cant prove anything... :-) sorry...

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  6. Anonymous4:11 PM

    vainrooney: oil-rich paedophiles are buying bums off western streets and getting them to act like terrorist muslims. that's all there is to conversion to islam in the west. the rest are idiot migrants from muslim countries fleeing the bad conditions, poor facilities in their countries. and along with islam they bring ignorance and violence to civlized western countries. but reading your comments, i realise you're also an idiot like them. so it's highly unlikely that you will understand what's going on. afterall, you only believe that 1400year old concoction of a book.

    you're a stupid monkey. and i will not use my advanced human intelligence to respond to your islam-inspired stupidity. so go fuck the alif, baa.

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  7. heheh.. it may be 1400 years old... but everything written in it is true.. eheh... by reading what ur writing, i can get that u dont like islam cos u KNOW it's right :-) ..n cos u cannot have sex with anyone u meet as its not allowed in islam... thats all...

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  8. what the hell d'u mean violence??? were islamic countries involved in World Wars 1 and 2?? I havnt heard.... how many million ppl died back then????? get ur facts straight man....

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  9. Anonymous5:14 PM

    vainrooney,
    Here is your sword.
    Islam was spread by the sword. Even in the Maldives. The story of peaceful conversion to Islam by Maldivians is not true. It is a lie. Maldivians were forced to become muslims.
    Can you not read and understand what the Isdhoo loamaafaanu says? It says that those who refused to say the shahaadhat were beheaded.

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  10. i guess it was the Muslims who dropped atomic bombs on Japan, and killed jews in german camps... :-)

    but it is USA & UK (christians) and Israel (Jews) who kill women n children everyday in Afghanistan, Iraq n Lebanon..... :-)

    just becos BinLadin attacked USA a couple of times as revenge, now Muslims are violent? :-)

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  11. where's this loamaafaanu??? n how many ppl are there to back up ur story??
    how do i know ur not just running ur mouth? :-)

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  12. whoever beheaded those guys surely committed a sin.... in islam we do not force ppl to become muslims.... so whoever did that committed a crime... lets dig him up n bring him to court...

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  13. the only way u can killed like that is when a Muslim converts to another religion (like u)....

    there are other ppl living in muslim countries who are not muslims... no one kills them...

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  14. here is PROOF that BIBLE that's used now is NOT God's word :-)

    http://www.jamaat.net/bible/Bible1-3.html

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  15. Anonymous5:32 PM

    Muhammad’s actions speaks louder than words.
    How about these events in the later years of his life?
    Read the Islamic texts.
    1) The killing of Abu Afak.
    2) The killing of Asma Marwan.
    3) Attack upon the Banu Qaynuqa Jews.
    4) The killing of Kab Ashraf.
    5) The killing of Ibn Sunayna.
    6) Attack against the Banu Nadir Jews.
    7) The killing of the Shepherd.
    8) Massacre of the Qurayza Jews.
    9) The torture killing of Kinana.
    10) The killing of a slave Wife and Mother.
    11) The slaying of an old woman from Fazara.
    12) The killing of Abdullah Khatal and his Daughter.
    13) The attack upon Tabuk.

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  16. what the hell r u talkin abt .. hehehehe..... if sumbody was killed, it means they did sumthin really wrong, like 'ziney' or becoming 'muruthadhdhu'....

    man,,, if somebody does sumthin wrong he or she should be punished.....

    how about the innocent ppl killed everyday in Palastine, Iraq n Afghanistan? u have a list of 13 things... but everyday dozens of ppl are killed there...

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  17. answer MY question: how about the innocent ppl killed everyday in Palastine, Iraq n Afghanistan by armies of USA, UK and Israel? Do u remotely care about that?

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  18. and how do u explain USA stripping the prisoners of war at GuantenamoBay of their human rights? :-)

    u ppl talk about rights.. rights, rights n rights... but u urself are alwez takin away ppl's rights...

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  19. Anonymous5:43 PM

    anonymous, I checked some islamic history. here is story of a massacre the muslims in medina did:

    Ibn Ishaq describes the killing of the Banu Qurayza men as follows:

    "Then they surrendered, and the apostle confined them in Medina in the quarter of d. al-Harith, a woman of B. al-Najjar. Then the apostle went out to the market of Medina (which is still its market today) and dug trenches in it. Then he sent for them and struck off their heads in those trenches as they were brought out to him in batches. Among them was the enemy of Allah Huyayy b. Akhtab and Ka`b b. Asad their chief. There were 600 or 700 in all, though some put the figure as high as 800 or 900. As they were being taken out in batches to the apostle they asked Ka`b what he thought would be done with them. He replied, 'Will you never understand? Don't you see that the summoner never stops and those who are taken away do not return? By Allah it is death!' This went on until the apostle made an end of them. Huyayy was brought out wearing a flowered robe in which he had made holes about the size of the finger-tips in every part so that it should not be taken from him as spoil, with his hands bound to his neck by a rope. When he saw the apostle he said, 'By God, I do not blame myself for opposing you, but he who forsakes God will be forsaken.' Then he went to the men and said, 'God's command is right. A book and a decree, and massacre have been written against the Sons of Israel.' Then he sat down and his head was struck off".

    The spoils of battle, including the enslaved women and children of the tribe, were divided up among Muhammad's followers, with Muhammad himself receiving a fifth of the value (as khums, to be used for the public good). Some of these were sold soon after to raise funds for jihad.

    By Asma
    (I dont have a blog so I am writing as Anon. My name is Asma)

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  20. hey... there are a lot of muslims like u everywhere these days.. they'll write anything.....

    this asma may also be a nutcase like u... so sorry, i can't belive u...

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  21. Anonymous11:48 PM

    After all the internet is open for avery one to post any sort of information so .....how do belive on what information that u have seend

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  22. Anonymous11:52 PM

    vainrooney,
    you are saying you do not believe the sahha hadees of Ibn Ishag? If you are a muslim you must believe the hadees
    Asma

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  23. against shaytaan2:59 AM

    to the author: check ur refrences clearly, wut u think is truth is only just shaytaan's work! I'm afraid u're just wastin ur time with this blog, it aint workin like the way u want it. Go do sumthin better!

    May Allah guide u to the straight path.

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  24. u see... i didnt say i didn't belive the hadhees... i said I cannot belive what Asma had written cos she said "Muhammad himself receiving a fifth of the value"...

    i think that part was not in the hadhees...

    so there...

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  25. hey asma... u can start a blog... it'll be fun for me, replying to all ur anti-islamic writings...

    just between u n me... who much are u guys paid by the Pope??? Ismail rasheed n the gang...

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  26. Anonymous9:47 AM

    If a person is incapable of tolerating criticism, including mild criticism, and especially if he perceives criticism where there is none, this is often a sign of this person’s deep psychological insecurity. Rude aggression and wild rage, too, are usually not the normal behaviour of a self-confident person, but rather of someone who knows that he will lose an argument unless he can bully others into silence.
    Asma

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  27. hey... i didnt start this :-) u guys started it by writing these articles...

    u can criticise all u want... i don't give a christ. :-)

    y r u tryin to change the subject? u were just blabbing about a hadhees.... u got any more hadhees'???

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  28. lose an argument? hahahaha... u guyz dont get it do u? the joke is on YOU guys.


    u guys started this by saying bad things about Islam n prophet Muhammad. so it means Islam is not the right religion for u guys... so i'm saying this:
    can u prove that Christianity is the right religion!??!! Prove if u can!!!

    i'm alwez ready for ur arguments :-).. cos i know I'm on the right path. Al-hamdhulillah.

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  29. this alwez happns... first u guys say sumthing wrong abt islam... then i reply... then u guys start attacking ME personally... u call THAT arguement?????


    there was Ismail Rasheed running his mouth... now he's either embarrassed to reply or like a coward replying as Anonymous or some other name :-)

    come on infidels... attack Islam.... u'll see that for each attack there are atleast a dozen replies....

    don't think Islam is weak... or muslims are weak. we wont sit back looking...

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  30. u want to attack islam? first u go and digest this:

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,13509-1811332,00.html

    it says "Catholic Church no longer swears by truth of the Bible"

    u have an answer to that???

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  31. cannot digest that??? try this one... i bet this will make u cry:

    http://www.answering-christianity.com/at.htm

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  32. what the bible says about prophet Muhammad:

    see:

    http://www.ais.org/~maftab/mhdbble

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  33. 101 Errors in the bible

    http://www.answering-christianity.com/101_bible_contradictions.htm

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  34. QUESTIONS CHURCH CANNOT ANSWER

    http://www.answering-christianity.com/abdullah_smith/difficult_questions_for_the_church.htm

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  35. Changes to the bible thought the ages, in a table

    http://www.why-christians-convert-to-islam.com/EXHIBITAv2.htm

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  36. PROOF THAT BIBLE WAS NOT PRESERVED ....

    http://www.answering-christianity.com/abdullah_smith/shamoun_lied_on_bible_preservation.htm

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  37. Kudahuththu12:29 PM

    There are at least two main versions of the Koran. The last time I checked the Shia version, there was a surah called Wilayeh. Your Sunni version comes minus that surah. What about the ayah on rajam (stoning to death? According to Aisha (Pedophile Mohamed's child wife) the parchment on which that ayah was written was eaten by a goat. Othman called in all versions of the Koran that contradicted his and burnt them. If there is only one (well two, perhaps three) versions of the Koran left today it is due to censorship. That is nothing to be proud of.

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  38. nah... u can't prove that claim...

    i'm saying things with proof :-D

    u see, another reason there cant be two versions is that there are thousands of ppl know the quran by heart (unlike the few dozens of ppl who know the bible by heart).. so if there's a change even in one 'fili', it is known easily...

    ppl in israel n other western countries have tried creating wrong versions on quran... but each time they fail n they have to shove their new versions up their asses....

    thats the truth... digest it...

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  39. Anonymous12:46 PM

    do u really thing there can be any censorship in this modern world? :-) so what ur saying is not even possible theoratically....

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  40. pis.. pis.. mi meehunnah huri hithaamaeiyge bodukamaa... ARABI GUITAR tha noony A RABI GUITAR tha?

    psychology is an invitation to flee from heaven, its evaluation had made lots of maldivians into getting muruthadhdhu.

    vainrooney: stop commenting and do something productive, like sending a mail to tam about these bums and their ignorant website.

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  41. i thought about that.... but the thing is i'm not sure what they'll do...

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  42. maybe IDP ca do something... i have bought this blog to the attention of a lot of ppl...

    i'm doing all i can myself to defy these ppl..

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  43. i even emailed www.mvblogs.org asking them to remove this site from their blog list... but they also havn't done anything... what will TAM do?

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  44. Anonymous3:16 PM

    perhaps you should read the disclaimer of mvblogs.org at the bottom.

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  45. Anonymous3:41 PM

    i guess disclaimers are more important than ur faith...

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  46. Kudahuththu1:18 AM

    For the proof you only have to look up the Shia Koran. It has the Surah al-Wilayah. Your Koran does not have that surah. You must also read the Sahih Hadith in Bukhari, Muslim, ibn Maja. Abu Dawood and so on to find out how Othman edited the Koran and how Aisha's goat ate the ayah on rajam. Make yourself familiar with your holy texts! You will be surprised at what you will discover.

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  47. WeWillNotBeSilenced1:52 AM

    Why do we have to look for those, you are the one making these claims so you have to present those evidence!

    You can crticise all you want but don't complain when we defend our religion.

    I can't believe mvblog.org is still listing this blog, inshallah they will remove it.

    We have to get every Maldivian's attention to this blog so that these people do not catch them in their traps

    May Allah guide these people to the straight path.

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